8/30: Birth Order, Revisited
This was inspired by Melanie’s question about birth order:
Birth order and stereotypes, I think you blogged in reference to your bio sibs in past, but what do you see in your own kids’ relationships in terms of birth order? are they how you’d expect?
I did write a post way back on this topic about the family I grew up in, but we have recently noticed the evolving dynamic between our munchkins and it’s made me think about it all again. As many of you know, we have 3 kids within 21 months of age of each other. Jack and Shane are 1 year and 1 week apart, and Shane and Finley are about 8.5 months apart. Our kids relationships are SO interesting, and in some ways they do fit the stereotypes for the personalities their birth order would predict, but in so many ways they do not. I think that is largely due to these factors:
1) Shane and Finley are closer in age than would be possible if I had given birth to both of them,
2) Shane didn’t have much of a chance to take the role as older brother to Finley because they are developmentally closer in age than their actual ages would suggest AND he was only with us for a few months before Fin crashed the party,
3) their temperaments have just as much impact on those dynamics as their “birth order.” That said, it’s not a big surprise that Jack and Finley sort of display 1st and 2nd child dynamics while Shanie is still finding where he wants to be in that mix.
Recently, Jack has REALLY started to take on the role of big brother and oldest child. He enforces the rules when he sees Finley or Shane not following them; he has this overwhelming sense of responsibility coupled with horrendous guilt when he does something wrong; and he’s the ultimate parent pleaser. Seriously, the child wants nothing more than to make us happy…it’s unbelievable. Although, at first, he was a wildman, it’s obvious to us now that he thinks through almost everything before he does it. He’s not the risk taker his little sister is, and we don’t have to worry about him doing ridiculous stunts that could end up breaking his neck (Fin is another story, and I say that after she attempted a back flip off the couch tonight).
Shane, like I said above, is not the classic middle child just yet. I think he’s getting there, but he doesn’t demonstrate the typical “competitive, assertive, outspoken, driven, outgoing” traits of a middle child. We are seeing signs that he is CERTAINLY on his way there, especially in the assertive and outgoing departments, but his temperament coupled probably coupled with his homecoming circumstances and siblings’ personalities make him a much more mellow, non-competitive, sweet, lover-not-a-fighter kind of kid. He’s precious that way, but we are proud of him when he asserts himself and I secretly don’t mind so much when he bops Finley on the head every once in awhile for being such a little booger;) He also enjoys quiet time, unlike our other kids, and is just not interested in competing for anything – not attention or praise, nor to try to out-do anyone. Sometimes he seems like he’s in his own little world of content, although he can also throw a killer tantrum. He loves a slow pace, and enjoys calmly laying on my lap so I can scratch his back or gently stroke the palms of his hands (he loves that). He loves physical touch and is never in too big a hurry to have a “baby massage” with lotion after bath-time, which is so different from Jack and Fin who have to be wrestled, pinned, and have lotion dumped on them as fast as possible because you only have about 10 seconds before they’ve contorted and run off.
Finley, on the other hand, fits the mold of a 2nd child to a T. JUST LIKE HER DAD (and mom). Apparently Travis’ nickname growing up was “me too,” as he was a 2nd child and wanted to do EVERYTHING his brother, who was 4 years older, was doing. Travis is VERY competitive, and his mom tells a story about him as a toddler to illustrate the point that he also enjoyed being the center of attention. He was a tag-along at his older brother’s playdate and, at one point, everyone convened to form a circle around a pretty remarkable frog. Travis pushed his way to the front of the pack to see what was hogging everyone’s attention, and when he saw it, he promptly stomped on it, squished it, and walked back out of the circle. And THAT. Is Travis. Finley is the same way – she is feisty, loves attention, and will try to do everything her big brothers are doing…and she takes whatever that is 1 step further to out-do them. She’s loud, she’s persistent, she’s relentless, and she’s willing to play dirty. She has that fierce little streak that makes an athlete excel, as long as we can harness it for those purposes and keep her out of jail!
The Jack / Shane / Finley dynamic is hysterical, as my brother, Alex, got to see last week. Jack will do things to instigate his younger followers and set them up to get in trouble, but he’ll do it in a way that makes himself exempt from the reprimand. For example, the kids aren’t allowed to play with the stereo that controls the TV and music, and we usually keep a baby lock on it. The other day, I forgot to lock the cabinet and I watched as Jack called Shane and Fin over, opened the cabinet, and extended his arms towards the stereo as if to say “go at it, guys!” Of course they fell right into his trap, so I busted them all;) LOL!
Anyway, here is a REALLY interesting NY Times article on birth order. It touches on something that struck a cord with me, which is speech delays in younger siblings. Interestingly, there was a recent Norwegian study that showed oldest siblings have IQ’s that averaged 3pts higher than their younger brothers’ (all male study). The Times article highlighted that personality and temperament probably shape family life far more than a few IQ points; academic prowess, success, etc. often come down to factors other than a few IQ points (like personality, drive, etc.). HOWEVER, we all know that with our 1st child, we spent more devoted 1 on 1 time on the floor reading book after book, teaching colors, ABC’s, etc. than we did with our subsequent children. So it’s fair to say, in most cases, a 2nd child / younger sibling gets less verbal stimulation than his/her oldest sibling did…and that’s arguably accentuated when siblings are close in age. We tend to become more laid back about milestones, etc., when we are no longer nervous, “first-time” parents. So then the Times article says this, which really hit home for me with regards to Shane and his speech delay (which, btw, is improving hugely with “prompt” therapy):
Those differences in verbal stimulation, like the differences in I.Q., are “relatively modest,” Dr. Sulloway continued, and unlikely to result in clinical speech delays. But in a child who is already vulnerable, a child who may be temperamentally less likely to evoke adults’ attention, or a child growing up in a less stimulating home — well, then, being the second child might be the added risk that makes the difference, he said.
There’s that mom guilt again;) It’s nothing we didn’t already know, or haven’t ourselves pointed out to Shane’s speech therapists. But I think it’s good for us to be aware of the combo of things that go into where Shane is with language development. Sometimes I wonder what would be different if my kids’ birth orders were reversed. And not that I could (or would want to) truly imagine life without Jack or Finley, but I do wonder what Shane would be like as an oldest or only child. Birth order fascinates me!
So where are you in birth order, and do you fit the mold? Do your kids fit the molds? I took this quiz that tries to predict what your birth order is, but it was TOTALLY wrong for me, which is weird since I think I’m a pretty text book middle child.




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I feel like I’ve always fit the mold of the middle child pretty well (I’m second of 5), but that quiz said I was likely an only child, which is maybe because in my adult life I’ve been strictly independent and consistently lived away from my family since I was 18. My husband was the oldest in his home (he has older, half-siblings who he really didn’t know until he was an adult, but he was the oldest of 3 growing up in his home). I’ll be interested to see how our daughter turns out, as far as personality. There’s a good chance she’ll be an only child, unless we decide to adopt a second child, so it will be interesting to see if she leans toward my characteristics of a middle child, or my husband’s as the oldest, or her own as an only child.
The quiz was spot on for me! I am an only child, and that’s what I got. I’m always interested in birth order too. We have 12, soon-to-be 13 children, but they fall in groups. The three that are 21, 19 and 18 (within 36 months) fall in the the first, middle and youngest personalities. We have two 8 year olds (adopted at 14 months) and a 7 year old (born 6 weeks after we returned from Guatemala). They don’t really follow suit, but like your kids, the younger one really isn’t developmentally much younger than the twins. Overall though, who know how we are to analyze our kids?!? One first born, one baby, and 11 middle children?
We have 3 kids within 11 mos of age( and have just added a 4th to the mix). It’s been interesting to see their roles change as the kids get older. Even though Taylor and Chloe are the same age (3), Taylor has taken on the oldest child role and Chloe has is a typical 2nd child. Coby has suffered the most from being so close in age to these two. He has the typical speech delays, etc. but is quickly catching up. And now that baby brother has arrived it will be interesting to see him go from youngest to middle child. He’s already getting more assertive and making himself known. And I think he’ll end up being a typical middle child in the end. And who knows what role our little 3 day old baby will take. It will be interesting!
I’m the 4th of 5, but the quiz said I have the characteristics of an only. Hmmm, subconscious wishful thinking?
I am an only and the quiz got me spot on!
I am a middle and the quiz said I was an oldest. In many ways we had 3 groupings of 6 kids and I was the oldest of 1 grouping so I may very well exhibit charactersitics of an oldest
I am the oldest (with two younger sisters, one is 2 years younger than me and the other 11 years younger). I was not surprised to see that the test spotted me right away, since I am a quite typical firstborn, I would say. My middle sister is really typical, too, and the youngest one has been so far some trouble for my parents! She is a little rebell and quite different from me, but all three of us are so different personality-wise. I am really fascinated with birth order as well. I also think that it is interesting that almost every couple we are friends with has the same birth order, like my husband and me are both first-borns, and so on, just like you and Travis, too. I would have thought that it would fit better if mixed up, since you learn to cope with your siblings personalities from early on (oh, my english is setting me restrictions here, I hope you can understand what Iam trying to say).
And in your family it is not only the birth order but the fact that Finley is the only girl, as well, that is supposed to also have an impact on growing up.
I don’t really know that much about birth order but I know that my kids seem to display pretty typical traits to other kids’ we know in terms of order. I don’t know if they are typical as far as what the books/studies say - but they are similar to each other. For instance, I had no idea that typical middle children were those traits you listed - they don’t really describe Teegan at all but I always thought he was a typical middle child. He’s more of a “don’t make waves, don’t rock the boat, be seen and not heard, people-please at all costs” type which seems to be similar to other friends of 3 boys that I know. He is very outgoing.
Noah is in transition from youngest to middle. It suites hm well. I have no idea what youngest traits are. Dalton has some oldest traits, I think. So really I have no idea. lol.
That quiz predicted me as a THIRD BORN! haha, I think I am the prototypical oldest child, though. Not sure how I scored the baby of the family. I was always the outspoken and bossy overachiever, and my brother (15 months younger) was always the rebel, underachiever, and defiant one - interestingly enough, my mom said he didn’t say a full sentence until he was like 4-ish. Apparently I talked for him. Then there’s #3, the 7-year-later-accident, who in most respects acts like an only child, since he was one for most of his life after the older 2 of us left for college.
I think that the proximity in age (as you wrote about, Laur) has SO much to do with the way the kids fall into the roles, too. I think my relationship and experience with my next-youngest brother was such that there was too much competition, I felt we were TOO close in age, and I think my overshadowing hindered his emotional and academic development in so many ways. It’s the main reason that I wanted kids at least 3 yrs apart - for more individual attention. I know we have talked about this so many times, Laur, because you always wanted kids so close in age so they would share more. It’s funny how our own childhood perceptions weight into the building of our own family. I also admire your patience with chaos, I think that’s why I needed one out of diapers and less needy by the time #2 arrives, can’t handle the stress of too many little ones.
I never had a sister, but so many of my girlfriends are the best of friends with their sisters, so I am very excited to see how my girls will interact. There will be cat fights, but I hope when they are adults they always look to each other first. And, husband-allowing, there will hopefully be a #3 in another 3-4 years! 2 is too few! We shall see. Love the topic of birth order. Good one.
dont be guilty, lulu is first and developmentally delayed
ok - took the quiz and turned out the way i figured - probably an only child. thing is, i’m not - i’m the youngest of 3. i figured it would show me as an only child because the situations when i was growing up caused my older brother and sister to take on the role of parents for a while, leaving me as the only child. just wanted to share to add to your facination with birth order! have a good one!
the quiz got me right
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